As mentioned on twitter recently, there were over 14000 spam comments on this small website. This was cleaned up using a few thousand mindless brainwashed sheeple working under threat, I am the Illuminati after all. Oops, did I actually write that? I mean, er, it was cleaned up using an anti-spam plugin, and deleted. Everything went, so if there were any real comments there I’m afraid they were lost. Please try again, new anti-spam countermeasures have been added to avoid accumulating lots of spam again, so that the comments section can live.

Of course, we must never admit that this was done because someone had posted a perfect argument proving chemtrails, and since those comments couldn’t be allowed we had to delete everything. Oh no, I’ve done it again!!

After I posted on chemtrails believers moral obligation, a thread started at a forum that appears to harbour a lot of conspiracy theorists. It makes for entertaining and enlightening reading.

In an odd twist of logic, a chemtrails believer thinks debunkers must be the immoral ones. Observe this post by Goldcurrent; a member of AboveTopSecret.com, in a post at http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread828810/pg1#pid13876815

Immoral debunkers?

Amazingly, this conspiracy theorist feels he is being blocked by debunkers!? Unlike the rest of the free world, Goldcurrent appears to hold debate as destructive rather than constructive.

First of all, if something is debunked, it is shown to be wrong, so he clearly wrote this wrong, otherwise he says he’d believe it even after it’s debunked. That would be a classic classic conspiracy theorist approach, but not one that I’d think is consciously chosen.

And contrary to what he says, I’d say I’m helping him think straight, not blocking anything at all. I would hope any chemtrails believers would be nudged in the direction of actually proving any claims they have by posts such as these, rather than tirelessly digging themselves deeper into a conspiracy hole together with other believers.

Conspiracy theorists, why won’t you take the challenge?

For the record, I don’t consider myself a debunker. I challenge claims, I haven’t debunked anything. But time will help me, if nobody ever meets the challenge, there’s nothing to believe any more.

I’m curious. Were any of the expected chemtrails chemicals or biological agents detected in Lower Manhattan after 9/11?

Didn’t think so.

Oh, right, that was a conspiracy too, wasn’t it? Aren’t you beginning to feel a bit like Jim Carrey in The Truman Show?

If you sincerely believe there is a chemtrails conspiracy going on, you have a moral obligation. If you think there’s an unhealthy operation led by government agencies that is making us sick or controlling our minds (or both), you really have to do something about it.

Your moral obligation is to document what is happening, in a way that is convincing. Reproducible findings documenting release of non-exhaust chemicals might be one way to do that. Sharing links to 100 page long government working group documents about geoengineering or weather modification is not enough. Pictures and videos of contrails in the sky are not convincing, the contrails are there because the air is a busy place. Insinuations are not enough!

How can you sit back and watch while this is taking place? How can you NOT do the real work you know is necessary, when people are getting ill, perhaps even you and your family? How can you not organize and do the real, open, well planned and reproducible research necessary? What are you doing that is more important?

This moral obligation does not apply to me, because I sincerely do not believe this is taking place. It’s up to you and your peers to design a methodology to document that this is happening, so that chemtrails doubters can be convinced.

This is the challenge. I honestly don’t think you’ll manage. Surprise me!

Here’s a typical chemtrail misunderstanding. According to the poster, this video is proof that chemtrails are not contrails, because it shows “chemtrail sprayers filmed from inside several different jets spraying chemicals.” However, this video shows planes dumping fuel, which happens on some occasions, for understandable reasons. This is not documentation of some organized secret scheme. This is a misguided effort by a confused individual.

Interestingly, upon having the error pointed out in the comments, the person who posted the video redefines chemtrails to include anything that is released in the atmosphere, saying “chemtrails by any other name are still chemicals sprayed into the air. call it a fuel dump call it stratospheric aerosols call it white powder from heaven call it contrails call it anything you like it is still chemicals sprayed into the air.”

So now chemtrails and pollution are the same? Don’t get me wrong, I welcome efforts to reduce pollution, but mixing up conspiracy theories is not helping the posters argument. In fact, quite the contrary!

I find conspiracy theories like chemtrails amusing, although it’s sad that misguided individuals waste time and energy on this. Here’s a comic (by xkcd) on chemtrails and conspiracy theories. Hilarious.